Q: I don't want to hurt your feelings, but I just don't like any of the woodstoves you offer, or any of the woodstoves I've seen anywhere else.
They're all too small, and they all have such dinky little viewing windows. I'm pretty handy with a welder, and want to build my own woodstove to
heat my 1200 sq.ft. home (very well insulated). The stove I have in mind will need to meet the EPA emissions standards without a catalytic
converter, and have a firebox like the woodstove my Dad used to have, big enough to hold 30" pieces of wood, or even bigger (I cut my own wood,
and don't want to have to whack up small pieces). I also want to have a larger glass door than the ones I see on manufactured woodstoves. I've
been all over your website, and you seem to know your stuff. I feel like if I just understood the theories I could weld something up and make
modifications to it until I get it to work right. Can you tell me the basics I'll need to know to design this thing? Also, if you have time, any tips you
care to share that might be helpful. It's getting cold outside!
Let's start with a basic overview of how non-catalytic woodstoves clean up the smoke emissions. The concept is pretty simple: in order to
meet EPA standards, you'll need to create a second fire inside the woodstove's firebox to reburn the exhaust from the
primary fire. The
secondary burn area in an EPA approved stove is usually located at the top of the firebox, and is designed in such a way that the exhaust from the fire
must pass through it on the way out the chimney. In operation, the wood exhaust ignites inside the chamber, creating a 1100+ degree flame (much
hotter than the wood fire below) which burns up approximately 90% of the smoke particles as they pass through it.
In order to fire off your
secondary burn, three things must be present at the same time and in the right amounts: fuel, heat and oxygen. The fuel part is easy: it is
the smoke from the primary fire. Likewise the heat: ceramic blanket insulation is used above the chamber to trap the heat from the fire below and
ensure lightoff temperatures. The oxygen part gets a little tricky: since the primary fire has consumed most of the oxygen available in the firebox,
preheated air must be introduced into the reburn area so secondary combustion can occur. Your design challenge will be to figure out a way to
preheat the secondary combustion air to the right temperature and cause it to be drawn into your secondary burn
area in measured quantities
that automatically adjust with the draft control that supplies air to the primary fire, keeping in mind that the secondary flame must keep burning
and cleaning up the exhaust even when the primary draft control is at its lowest setting.
Tip: Over 400 US woodstove manufacturers have gone out of business in recent years as a result of being unable to engineer a stove that would
burn clean enough to meet EPA emissions standards. The sad fact is, unless you are an exceptionally talented thermal design engineer with a
background in wood combustion and lots of time and materials for prototype testing, your secondary burn
design probably isn't going to work.
Next, let's look at woodstove viewing window basics. Early attempts at adding viewing windows to woodstoves were miserable failures, as the
windows turned black almost immediately from contact with the wood smoke. Since it is kind of silly to go to the expense of incorporating a viewing
window if you can't see through it, woodstove manufacturers soon learned to incorporate an "airwash" in the design of the stove, taking a portion
of the incoming combustion air, preheating it, and directing it across the inside surface of the window to keep the smoke away. Airwash designs are
a little tricky, as they require building the necessary preheating chambers into the design of the stove and then providing a means to direct the
airflow across the inside window surface without adversely affecting burning efficiency.
Tip: Manufacturers know that a big view of the fire will appeal to woodstove buyers, and make every effort to provide the largest viewing window
that can be kept clean by the airwash system. As you modify and retest your stove with various airwash delivery systems and various sizes of
windows, you'll find that there's a limit to how big the window can be and still be kept clean by the airwash. You could save yourself a lot of futile
effort by resigning yourself to a viewing window that is about the same size as the ones you see on manufactured stoves.
Finally, let's tackle firebox sizing. Woodstove manufacturers know that people who buck up their own fuelwood want fireboxes that can hold larger
pieces of wood, because cutting wood is hard work, and larger pieces mean fewer cuts. So why, in recent years, have these manufacturers been
making their fireboxes SMALLER, instead of larger? In a word, heat. Too much heat. Remember that 1100+ degree burn in the secondary burn
chamber? Your Dad's stove didn't have one of those. If it had, and was as big as you describe, he wouldn't have been able to stand the heat long
enough to go into the house, let alone get close enough to the stove to add one of his 30" chunks of wood to the fire.
Tip: Our highest output woodstove, the Pacific Summit, has a firebox measuring just 20" x 18" x 13" (2.7 cubic feet), yet generates
up to 99,000 BTU's
per hour (enough to heat a 3,000 sq.ft. house). If you do manage to design and build a reburn chamber that works, and want to heat your 1200 sq.ft.
house without blasting your family out into the yard, you'll want to plan a firebox that will
accomodate your 30" logs after they've been cut in half. This
won't cause you any extra labor at cutting time, because if your reburn design works, you're only going to burn about half the wood your Dad did
to heat the same area.
Here's something you didn't ask about, but need to know: Federal and state laws prohibit installation of any woodburning heater that isn't UL
listed and EPA approved. Obtaining this approval is not practical for a single stove: even if you were able to build a stove that would be safe
enough and clean-burning enough to pass, you'd be out about twenty grand for the safety and emissions testing. If you were to go ahead and install
your home-built woodstove without listing labels from the test labs, you most likely wouldn't be able to get a permit from your Code Authority to
install it. In the event of a fire claim, the insurance adjuster might notice the lack of listing labels or ask to see your installation permit, at which
point your coverage would probably hit the fan.
To sum up, the most likely product of your efforts will be an illegal, wood-gobbling, creosote manufacturing smoke dragon with a viewing window
you can't see through. And no insurance coverage in the event that this monster burns your house down.
Q: I am mailing in response to your letter to someone wanting to build his own woodstove. Tuff luck that someone doesn't sell a design for this
fellow. My whole problem with EPA certified woodstoves is that once the unit is sold, the manufacturer has no control over how it is used anyhow
and I have seen burn-clean stoves belching forth smoke all the live long day. I mean, it sure seems to be an awfully delicate balance to maintain and
I can't understand how this is achieved from the board room table. I used to own a house with a fireplace insert and run it steady without a visible
trace of smoke and heat the house with it solely (-15to-30C). I think the claims of EPA ratings should be made after the public sector is factored in
as I'm suspicous the stoves are tested in equally delicate balance. Anyhow, I would also like to build my own fireplace insert for our new house.
Thanks for the input! Sorry to say, we can't supply plans for your build-it-yourself wood insert project. Manufacturers guard their EPA certified
designs jealously: even though we've established a close relationship with several manufacturers over the years, we've never been allowed to see a
diagram or drawing you could build a stove from.
I'm curious about your assertion that you've seen EPA approved woodstoves belching forth smoke all the live long day. In the early days of
clean-burning technology, we were involved in a test of the low-emissions designs of the day, and no matter how hard we tried, we couldn't get any
of them to produce any visible smoke. This wasn't because the primary fire in an EPA approved wood stove doesn't produce just as many
particulates as any fire, it was because EPA approved stoves incorporate a secondary burn chamber where these particles are automatically
reburned, resulting in no visible emissions.
Because of the way they work, the only way EPA approved wood stoves could belch smoke out the chimney all day long as you describe would be if
the secondary burn was extinguished somehow. You imply that some sort of "delicate balance" must be maintained by the operator to
keep the secondary burn going, but I can only think of three ways it could possibly
One way to extinguish the secondary burn would be to smolder the fire (starve it for air). This can't be what caused the smoke you saw, unless the
clean air stove in question was one of the very earliest models: today's stoves are designed so that the secondary burn gets sufficient air for
combustion no matter how low the draft control is adjusted. In fact, EPA emissions testing is performed with the draft conrol set as far from a
"delicate balance" as you can get: the stove must pass emissions testing with the draft control set to the worst-case scenario, closed down all the
The second way to extinguish the secondary burn would be to deliberately bypass the secondary burn system, which is not possible with most
models. Even if the stove in question was one of the few that have a bypass, it is highly unlikely that's what produced the smoke you saw: since it is
neither efficient nor economical to burn with the secondary burn system bypassed, it is hard to believe that anybody trying to heat their house with
a woodstove would make that mistake very often.
Which leaves us with the only likely cause of the smoke you observed: the operator was burning
wet or green fuelwood. Burning green
or wet wood will cause excessive smoke to flow out a chimney venting any
woodstove, no matter how high-tech. Green or wet fuelwood should never be burned in any stove, EPA approved or otherwise, not only because of the extreme
emissions, but also because of other resulting headaches like excessive creosote formation, incomplete combustion, lousy heat output and
blackened viewing windows.
The bottom line is, the manufacturers of today's EPA approved non-catalytic woodstoves have really done an excellent job building stoves that
burn clean automatically, without any need for any special tweaking or adjustment by the operator. All you have to do is avoid burning green or
wet wood, which has always been a no-no in any woodstove anyway.
Q: if you arent looking for pretty use a 50 gallon drum and you can make a baffle box out of 1/8" steel and alternate the steel so that the spaces
are at opposite endsand leave about 2" of gap, this also bumps up the heat output. or use an old catalytic converter from a truck. the EPA guys
arent gonna go looking for you if there is some smoke if its yer only heat source. ive got worse. a metal and cinder cube with a chimney, door and
vents with no glass in my house and i dont get bugged about it.
rednek- - - -@hotmail.com
I'm afraid you might be missing the point here. Your barrel stove idea is nothing new: similar designs have been around since..... well, since barrels.
I've seen several variations of your double-baffle idea over the years, and while incorporating baffles in the design might improve the burn of
barrel stoves a bit, I hope you realize that you're never going to build a stove that even approaches the efficiency of an EPA approved design (I'm
going to assume that your idea of incorporating a catalytic converter out of a truck is not something you've actually tried, because there's no way
that would ever work).
The point is, EPA approved designs are better than homemade stoves in several respects:
1) They heat the same area while burning about half the fuel (saves half the cutting, splitting, hauling, not to mention usage of the wood resource).
2) Their stay-clear viewing windows allow you to ensure your fire is burning properly from across the room (prevents smoldering, assures utmost
3) They cut the formation of creosote in the chimney by about 90% (less frequent need for sweeping, less chance of having a chimney fire).
4) If you ever do have a fire, their UL safety listing ensures that your insurance company will pay your claim.
5) They are MUCH kinder to the environment, as they exhaust only 1/20th of the particulate emissions into the airshed as non-EPA approved
stoves. Since our generation has finally come to the realization that protecting the environment is everybody's business, deliberately burning a
homemade smoke dragon like you describe could be looked at like tossing your empty PBR cans out of your truck window.
I just read your page concerning the gentleman that wanted tips on building his own stove. I have to say I appreciate the complete, well thought out
and intelligent response. You could have just said it's too hard you cannot do it and it would be illegal, In my mind a worthless, frustrating answer
that would indicate we are all too stupid to understand a thorough explanation.
Thank you for taking the time to give a very good answer to a relevant question !!
Thanks for the kind words! As the old Master Sweep used to say, "Asking a question is not stupid. Having the answer and not sharing it is stupid."
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